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Impedance and Power Matching
« on: January 15, 2011, 02:51:30 PM »
Mga sirs, ask ko lang po sana yung matching ng amps to subs, pano po ba yun, kailangan po ba na patas ang wattage ng sub and amp or alin po dapat ang mas mataas sa dalawa? I come accross the word "frying" ano po ba ang meaning nito in relation to car audio? kelan po ba nasusunog ang voice coil?

Panu din po ba ang prinsipyo ng impedance matching ng speakers to amps? di ba po may resistance value when buying an amp and also speakers?

Thanks in advance mga gurus and i hope to learn more from you guys

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Re: Impedance and Power Matching
« Reply #1 on: March 03, 2011, 04:48:03 PM »
bro, ive been researching  this also since am also a newbie when it comes to setting up car audios.

i would like to share this with you. medyo mahaba pero worth reading to understand how impedance affects amps power output. speaker wire connection to amp also affects power output.

Impedance

For most car speakers, impedance isn’t usually a concern because almost all
of them have a 4-ohm impedance. But with subwoofers, impedance plays a
very crucial role. Impedance is a measure of how much resistance a subwoofer
presents to the power flowing from the amplifier, and is often referred
to as the load a sub places on an amp. Another way to think of impedance
is how much a speaker restricts flow of power from an amplifier. The higher
the impedance, the more the power from the amplifier is restricted, and the
lower the impedance, the less the power from the amplifier is restricted.

Impedance is an important subwoofer spec because, depending on a subwoofer’s
impedance and the way the subwoofer is wired to an amplifier, it
causes the amp to increase or decrease its power output. In general, most car
audio amps produce more power with every halving of impedance — up to a
point, that is.

For example, if a two-channel or stereo amplifier produces 60 watts x 2 into a
4-ohm load, it may produce around 75 watts into a 2-ohm load. When the two
channels are bridged to form a single channel, meaning the two separate
stereo channels are combined into one mono channel, the power more than
doubles to about 150 watts.

But the amplifier has to be stable at that load, meaning it has been designed
to operate at that impedance. Otherwise, the amp is being asked to perform
beyond its design capabilities and either shuts down (if it has protection circuitry)
or it fries (if it does not). Some amps, called high current amps, can
drive loads as low as half an ohm (although these are usually specialized for
sound-off competitors who are trying to squeeze every last drop of power
out of their systems, and they often require an upgrade of a car’s charging
system).

The various ways in which subs can be wired to an amplifier are the determining
factors of the final impedance at the amplifier’s outputs, and therefore
the ultimate power output of the amp. That’s why you see amplifiers rated at
different impedances. For example, the same 120-watt stereo amplifier mentioned
earlier may have power ratings that look like this:

60 watts x 2 into 4 ohms
75 watts x 2 into 2 ohms
150 watts x 1 into 4 ohms

Almost all car audio amplifiers are designed to produce their optimum power
output into a specific impedance. If the impedance goes up past that optimum
point, the amp performs less powerfully and you’re not getting all the
power you paid for. If the amp is driven into a lower impedance than it’s capable
of handling, it could either shut down, if built-in protection circuitry kicks
in, or become damaged, if it does not.

Another important thing to know about amplifiers in relation to subwoofers
is that subs are almost always driven in mono as opposed to stereo. That’s
because stereo separation cannot be detected at low frequencies. That’s why
it’s common to bridge two channels of a stereo amp or a mutichannel amp to
form a single mono channel to power a sub, and why mono block subwoofer
amps are often used to power subwoofers. (Mono block is just a fancy way of
describing a single-channel amplifier, and the terminology came from the highend
home audio world, in which mono block amps are preferred for powering

As mentioned earlier, a single bridged channel of an amp is usually
about twice as powerful as two separate stereo channels if all are driving
the same load, which is a good thing because subwoofers require roughly
twice the power of other speakers.
« Last Edit: March 03, 2011, 04:53:35 PM by diorel »
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Re: Impedance and Power Matching
« Reply #2 on: March 30, 2011, 09:56:07 AM »
Mga sirs, ask ko lang po sana yung matching ng amps to subs, pano po ba yun, kailangan po ba na patas ang wattage ng sub and amp or alin po dapat ang mas mataas sa dalawa? I come accross the word "frying" ano po ba ang meaning nito in relation to car audio? kelan po ba nasusunog ang voice coil?

Panu din po ba ang prinsipyo ng impedance matching ng speakers to amps? di ba po may resistance value when buying an amp and also speakers?

Thanks in advance mga gurus and i hope to learn more from you guys

Frying occurs when you put too much power to your sub. You can also fry your amp if you use it improperly. And of course in the case of wrong connections you can fry stuff as well.

Usually in car audio there's 4ohms and 2 ohms for subs. For seps, ideally use only 4ohms max for less THD (total harmonic distortion).

Matching would be using the wattage within the maximum input of the speaker as a guide for buying your amp. The closer you are to the maximum input, the less you have to crank up the amplifier gain. Amps with lower THD values will give a better sound output.

Take note also of voltage used in measuring power output of amps, some use 14.4v to measure. But usually we're only at 13.8v max, so the output will be less.

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