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Title: Is the Ford EcoSport a good 1st car? Alternatives?
Post by: iamstorm on September 23, 2016, 02:26:13 AM
Looking to buy our first car, and we're more or less decided on an Ecosport (Trend, MT, Black Edition). The height was important to us, as it occasionally floods where we live. It's in the high range of our budget.

However, I've been seeing bad reviews for the AT, particularly its DCT transmission, and was wondering if transmission problems are also prevalent in the manual. Also now having second thoughts - I don't want to spend all that money and then sakit ng ulo agad 5 years down the road pa lang.

Any alternatives anyone might suggest also? We looked at the Juke as well, but it's significantly pricier, and while we love the look and I wouldn't mind the automatic, it also has less space compared to the Ecosport. The Mobilio was also considered, but it was too low - we might as well buy a Vios kahit less spacious, significantly cheaper and reliable pa. I've also driven an Avanza, HATED it, which is why we're crossing that off our list as well.

Thank you in advance to folks who'll reply.
Title: Re: Is the Ford EcoSport a good 1st car? Alternatives?
Post by: iamstorm on September 23, 2016, 02:35:51 AM
Sorry mods, seems my connection got wonky and I double-posted. Please remove one.
Title: Re: Is the Ford EcoSport a good 1st car? Alternatives?
Post by: DTNS on September 23, 2016, 07:20:43 PM
I've checked out the Ford EcoSport at a Ford showroom before. masikip cya IMO. its seats aren't supportive enough for me. well, it is based on an A-segment car platform. hehe!

I was supposed to recommend the Avanza, but you already scratched it off your list. you might want to consider stretching your budget for a Honda H-RV, B-RV, Mitsubishi ASX, or Mazda CX-3. ;)
Title: Re: Is the Ford EcoSport a good 1st car? Alternatives?
Post by: iamstorm on September 24, 2016, 12:20:53 AM
Quote from: DTNS on September 23, 2016, 07:20:43 PM
I've checked out the Ford EcoSport at a Ford showroom before. masikip cya IMO. its seats aren't supportive enough for me. well, it is based on an A-segment car platform. hehe!

I was supposed to recommend the Avanza, but you already scratched it off your list. you might want to consider stretching your budget for a Honda H-RV, B-RV, Mitsubishi ASX, or Mazda CX-3. ;)

Yeah, medyo masikip nga sya, even compared to a Vios or most in the sedan segment. Pero important kasi yung height para sa amin eh. I think we can make do with the space.

Yung Avanza, grabe naman kasi, I drove one before, I really hated the experience. Manual na walang hatak, and everything felt cheap. I've also asked cabbies who drive regular non-LPG converted units, usually sabi nila malakas daw sa gasolina, they prefer a Vios.

Ang concern ko naman sa Honda, baka naman mahal i-maintain. From what I understand, Hondas are one of the most expensive cars to maintain. And from what I know of the prices, super stretch naman for the HRV, BRV, ASX and CX3. Aren't they in the Php1.2M range? The Ecosport is less than Php900,000.
Title: Re: Is the Ford EcoSport a good 1st car? Alternatives?
Post by: downtown on September 24, 2016, 10:44:54 PM
it is easy to drive around because of the size and has ground clearance in case of light flooding. beware though, i hear that maintenance cost is quite high for ford vehicles.
Title: Re: Is the Ford EcoSport a good 1st car? Alternatives?
Post by: DTNS on September 25, 2016, 06:52:12 PM
Quote from: downtown on September 24, 2016, 10:44:54 PM
it is easy to drive around because of the size and has ground clearance in case of light flooding. beware though, i hear that maintenance cost is quite high for ford vehicles.

+1
Title: Re: Is the Ford EcoSport a good 1st car? Alternatives?
Post by: mbenz204 on September 28, 2016, 10:40:21 AM
I have both the previous Altis and the Civic and PMS is almost the same. Why not consider a Toyota Innova J?
Title: Re: Is the Ford EcoSport a good 1st car? Alternatives?
Post by: DTNS on September 28, 2016, 04:57:12 PM
if high ground clearance and ease of maintenance are your top criteria, consider AUVs like an Isuzu Crosswind or Mitsubishi Adventure.
Title: Re: Is the Ford EcoSport a good 1st car? Alternatives?
Post by: iamstorm on September 28, 2016, 10:30:32 PM
Quote from: mbenz204 on September 28, 2016, 10:40:21 AM
I have both the previous Altis and the Civic and PMS is almost the same. Why not consider a Toyota Innova J?
That was on the table, but even the basic unit is still more expensive than the EcoSport.

Quote from: DTNS on September 28, 2016, 04:57:12 PM
if high ground clearance and ease of maintenance are your top criteria, consider AUVs like an Isuzu Crosswind or Mitsubishi Adventure.
Those were also on the table, but my wife doesn't like either of them so that sealed the deal. LOL.
Title: Re: Is the Ford EcoSport a good 1st car? Alternatives?
Post by: mbenz204 on September 29, 2016, 04:42:03 PM
The WIFE........usually has the last say...... don't worry you're not alone....most of the time especially on expensive things.......LOL.
Title: Re: Is the Ford EcoSport a good 1st car? Alternatives?
Post by: DTNS on September 30, 2016, 07:40:57 PM
Quote from: iamstorm on September 24, 2016, 12:20:53 AM
Yeah, medyo masikip nga sya, even compared to a Vios or most in the sedan segment. Pero important kasi yung height para sa amin eh. I think we can make do with the space.

Yung Avanza, grabe naman kasi, I drove one before, I really hated the experience. Manual na walang hatak, and everything felt cheap. I've also asked cabbies who drive regular non-LPG converted units, usually sabi nila malakas daw sa gasolina, they prefer a Vios.

Ang concern ko naman sa Honda, baka naman mahal i-maintain. From what I understand, Hondas are one of the most expensive cars to maintain. And from what I know of the prices, super stretch naman for the HRV, BRV, ASX and CX3. Aren't they in the Php1.2M range? The Ecosport is less than Php900,000.

if you're limited by budget and by the "finance officer's decision", check out the 2nd hand market. I'm sure there are plenty of SUVs you can buy with your budget.
Title: Re: Is the Ford EcoSport a good 1st car? Alternatives?
Post by: iamstorm on October 04, 2016, 02:32:15 AM
Quote from: DTNS on September 30, 2016, 07:40:57 PM
if you're limited by budget and by the "finance officer's decision", check out the 2nd hand market. I'm sure there are plenty of SUVs you can buy with your budget.

I looked at that as well, but my wife wants to buy a brand new car - I'm actually driving a hand-me-down 1998 1.6 Corolla GLI from my late father which still drives well, but as with old cars, they tend to need parts replacement and repair every so often. My wife wants to minimize the chances of such incidents, as we often travel with our 1-year old in tow. We also get a monthly subsidy for a brand new car from our jobs which we cannot get if we go with a second hand unit.

Personally though, I'm concerned about getting a unit with hidden issues. And I'd like to experience having a brand new car as well. Haha.
Title: Re: Is the Ford EcoSport a good 1st car? Alternatives?
Post by: mbenz204 on October 04, 2016, 11:06:53 AM
Actually you can get  a nice 1 to 2-year-old car still with a manufacturers' warranty. In your budget, it's really difficult for a new car with high road clearance.
Title: Re: Is the Ford EcoSport a good 1st car? Alternatives?
Post by: DTNS on October 04, 2016, 06:14:09 PM
Quote from: iamstorm on September 28, 2016, 10:30:32 PM
Those were also on the table, but my wife doesn't like either of them so that sealed the deal. LOL.

looks like your wife is dead-set on an EcoSport.


wala ba talagang leeway sa choices or sa budget?
Title: Re: Is the Ford EcoSport a good 1st car? Alternatives?
Post by: iamstorm on October 04, 2016, 11:20:17 PM
Quote from: DTNS on October 04, 2016, 06:14:09 PM
looks like your wife is dead-set on an EcoSport.


wala ba talagang leeway sa choices or sa budget?

I'm not sure, but price is important - we might consider getting something more expensive if what we get in return really offsets the added expense.
Title: Re: Is the Ford EcoSport a good 1st car? Alternatives?
Post by: DTNS on October 05, 2016, 09:46:32 AM
Quote from: iamstorm on October 04, 2016, 11:20:17 PM
I'm not sure, but price is important - we might consider getting something more expensive if what we get in return really offsets the added expense.

okay. what does your wife think of the current Toyota Innova?
Title: Re: Is the Ford EcoSport a good 1st car? Alternatives?
Post by: eTups on October 06, 2016, 01:38:10 PM
For  Sub Compact Sedan,

   Honda City

For Crossover,

   Mazda CX-3 (compartment a bit
   small)

    Hyundai Tucson

Congrats in advance Sir!

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Title: Re: Is the Ford EcoSport a good 1st car? Alternatives?
Post by: egzbuen on October 08, 2016, 10:07:23 AM
Too bad preowned is out of the question.  I would have suggested the latest Fortuner you could get within your max budget. It will serve you for years.

That is if you don't mind also the stiffer ride.

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Title: Re: Is the Ford EcoSport a good 1st car? Alternatives?
Post by: DTNS on October 08, 2016, 08:05:07 PM
Quote from: egzbuen on October 08, 2016, 10:07:23 AM
Too bad preowned is out of the question.  I would have suggested the latest Fortuner you could get within your max budget. It will serve you for years.

That is if you don't mind also the stiffer ride.

Sent from heaven



the new Fortuner is a quantum leap from the previous generation! especially the ride quality. ;)
Title: Re: Is the Ford EcoSport a good 1st car? Alternatives?
Post by: egzbuen on October 08, 2016, 09:47:26 PM
Quote from: DTNS on October 08, 2016, 08:05:07 PM
the new Fortuner is a quantum leap from the previous generation! especially the ride quality. ;)
True. But still a lot stiffer compared to other SUVS of its class.

Don't get me wrong, I'm a Fort owner and it's my daily driver. [emoji1]

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Title: Re: Is the Ford EcoSport a good 1st car? Alternatives?
Post by: Senman1920 on October 13, 2016, 10:06:56 PM
Quote from: iamstorm on September 23, 2016, 02:26:13 AM
Looking to buy our first car, and we're more or less decided on an Ecosport (Trend, MT, Black Edition). The height was important to us, as it occasionally floods where we live. It's in the high range of our budget.

However, I've been seeing bad reviews for the AT, particularly its DCT transmission, and was wondering if transmission problems are also prevalent in the manual. Also now having second thoughts - I don't want to spend all that money and then sakit ng ulo agad 5 years down the road pa lang.

Any alternatives anyone might suggest also? We looked at the Juke as well, but it's significantly pricier, and while we love the look and I wouldn't mind the automatic, it also has less space compared to the Ecosport. The Mobilio was also considered, but it was too low - we might as well buy a Vios kahit less spacious, significantly cheaper and reliable pa. I've also driven an Avanza, HATED it, which is why we're crossing that off our list as well.

Thank you in advance to folks who'll reply.
Ecosport MT variants has less or no at all issues like what you've found out on AT's. When it comes to compartment, it has an adequate space that can fit a couple of stuffs. Same goes to legroom to the passengers at the back, even 3 adults can freely sit with ample space without the tight feels.

I'm currently owns a Ecosport and it is my 1st brand new car. Not to be bias, you may want to consider ASX, Juke, Tucson or HR-V.

Good luck and hope you can find the best fit for you and your wife.

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Title: Re: Is the Ford EcoSport a good 1st car? Alternatives?
Post by: bukayo01 on October 17, 2016, 04:45:41 PM
The problem with the AT is the shift shock and the performance, it is not really a maintenance problem because it the characteristic of the AT. While you will not experience this with the M/T. PM cost some may have different cost per CASA but comparing with the Japanese brands yes it is a bit pricier than Toyota you may be in line with the Mitsubishi,Hyundai. You just have to be wise on how and where you will bring your car on your next PM.
Title: Re: Is the Ford EcoSport a good 1st car? Alternatives?
Post by: iamstorm on October 20, 2016, 03:17:43 AM
Quote from: DTNS on October 05, 2016, 09:46:32 AM
okay. what does your wife think of the current Toyota Innova?
Panget daw. Hahaha.

The Tucson might also be a possibility. That it's diesel is a big advantage for me - better for fording possible flooded areas and cheaper consumption (especially since we drive out of Manila at least once a month), and larger space.

What's giving me second thoughts is how long the unit will last (since its Hyundai), especially considering that my parents still have a very drivable 1998 Corolla and 2002 Revo, which is kind of my standard in terms of unit longevity. The availability of skilled third-party mechanics (who won't charge an arm and a leg) that can service it after warranty expires is also a concern.
Title: Re: Is the Ford EcoSport a good 1st car? Alternatives?
Post by: eTups on October 20, 2016, 08:03:16 PM
Quote from: iamstorm on October 20, 2016, 03:17:43 AM
Panget daw. Hahaha.

The Tucson might also be a possibility. That it's diesel is a big advantage for me - better for fording possible flooded areas and cheaper consumption (especially since we drive out of Manila at least once a month), and larger space.

What's giving me second thoughts is how long the unit will last (since its Hyundai), especially considering that my parents still have a very drivable 1998 Corolla and 2002 Revo, which is kind of my standard in terms of unit longevity. The availability of skilled third-party mechanics (who won't charge an arm and a leg) that can service it after warranty expires is also a concern.
If that's the case Sir, what I'm seeing is that you will be leaning to a Toyota...hehehe..

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Title: Re: Is the Ford EcoSport a good 1st car? Alternatives?
Post by: iamstorm on October 22, 2016, 03:11:42 AM
Quote from: eTups on October 20, 2016, 08:03:16 PM
If that's the case Sir, what I'm seeing is that you will be leaning to a Toyota...hehehe..

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Kung afford lang namin ang Fortuner eh, edi go sa Toyota. Hahaha!

We're already around 90% sold on the EcoSport, but I just want to make sure that we've considered all options, this being our first car purchase an all. Mahirap magka-buyer's remorse sa kotse. Haha.
Title: Re: Is the Ford EcoSport a good 1st car? Alternatives?
Post by: eTups on October 22, 2016, 01:42:16 PM
Quote from: iamstorm on October 22, 2016, 03:11:42 AM
Kung afford lang namin ang Fortuner eh, edi go sa Toyota. Hahaha!

We're already around 90% sold on the EcoSport, but I just want to make sure that we've considered all options, this being our first car purchase an all. Mahirap magka-buyer's remorse sa kotse. Haha.
Hehe...Nissan Juke is the closest competitor to Ecosport, sayang lang Sir kasi di namin siya nabtest dtive last Intl Motor Show..

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Title: Re: Is the Ford EcoSport a good 1st car? Alternatives?
Post by: stagea on October 26, 2016, 10:07:47 AM
Quote from: iamstorm on October 20, 2016, 03:17:43 AM
Panget daw. Hahaha.

The Tucson might also be a possibility. That it's diesel is a big advantage for me - better for fording possible flooded areas and cheaper consumption (especially since we drive out of Manila at least once a month), and larger space.

What's giving me second thoughts is how long the unit will last (since its Hyundai), especially considering that my parents still have a very drivable 1998 Corolla and 2002 Revo, which is kind of my standard in terms of unit longevity. The availability of skilled third-party mechanics (who won't charge an arm and a leg) that can service it after warranty expires is also a concern.
I honestly don't see current Hyundais lasting any worse than current Fords. I favor the Juke over the Ecosport because I prefer how it drives and I like that it's a world vehicle. I agree that the Ecosport has more rear space, however.