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Re:Big Brakes!
« Reply #45 on: January 07, 2003, 01:31:58 AM »
Stanley,

Localy fabricated sya! As for the hardware store thingy.....i doubt it..mukhang bogus kasi most of the ss lines that I see there are non rated (walang PSI rating) and are mostly used for water piping.

If you want to have one made I can point you to the right direction.

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Re:Big Brakes!
« Reply #46 on: January 08, 2003, 11:03:15 AM »
guys,

FYI lang you can check if your brake system can handle dot4 is to check yung cover ng brake fluid ng kotse and its indicated kung what fluid you can use. Also if you want to increase your brake power you might as well change yung hydrovac ng brakes. :)

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Re:Big Brakes!
« Reply #47 on: January 08, 2003, 03:24:20 PM »
colocoy;

Aerohead Mechanix, for both front and rear its 3,500 ventillated or non ventillated. for front only its about 2,500  call him up at 3232171

Hope this helps.
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Re: Big Brakes!
« Reply #48 on: January 14, 2003, 05:59:22 PM »
pare sino yung honda with the AP calipers? taga saan shop? bakit mahina yung brakes nya kung ganun yung ginawa nya? were these guys going back to back on the track? pano mo nalaman na nag fade na yung may AP?

Try getting better pads and stainless steel lines muna before going the whole 9 yards, para maka tipid ng konti. :)

I know of 2 Civics, both ith heavily modded B16 and B18 engines respectively. One has the AP Racing 4 pot and AEM 13' floating 2-piece discs using EBC Greenstuff, and the other one has OE SiR brakes with ENDLESS CCM Pads along with SS brake lines. You won't believe which one brakes better and with less fade after only 5 laps in a track. ;)

And Enigz has a point. Are your tires sticky enough to handle the added braking power? I changed my tires now (bigger and wider) using the same spec pads, and braking is on a totally different level.

Pads and lines make a big difference, along with nice brake fluid like MOTUL RBF 600.

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Re:Big Brakes!
« Reply #49 on: January 14, 2003, 06:09:29 PM »
FYI, how a brake upgrade can go wrong:



Stock - 128ft.

AEM big brakes - 132ft.

This is from Motor Trend magazine, big brakes won't always perform better.
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Re:Big Brakes!
« Reply #50 on: January 15, 2003, 01:14:19 PM »
FYI, how a brake upgrade can go wrong:



Stock - 128ft.

AEM big brakes - 132ft.

This is from Motor Trend magazine, big brakes won't always perform better.

Benj, anong test car yung gamit? i can't remember exactly where i came accross this topic before.

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Re:Big Brakes!
« Reply #51 on: January 15, 2003, 02:23:49 PM »
The test car is the Acura RSX pictured in the article, with AEM boltons I believe and the AEM big brake kit.

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Re:Big Brakes!
« Reply #52 on: January 17, 2003, 06:47:14 PM »
here's a cost effective solution which i picked from the latest turbo magazine (feb 2003 issue)

the test car was a Competion-Series-equipped Civic HB extensively conducted 60-0 mph by Progressive Group Inc.

Baseline stopping numbers using OEM pads and rotors plus stainless-steel braided brake lines at 129ft.

Using EBC Green Stuff pads resulted significant improvement to 122ft.

Adding a Cross-Drilled and Slotted Progress rotors resulted an additional improvement down to 114ft.

i think it's a good buy for the EBC Green Stuffs. FYI

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Re:Big Brakes!
« Reply #53 on: January 18, 2003, 05:02:57 AM »
benj can you give us a readble version of the article.

Thanks, i'm highly interested on what went wrong

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Re:Big Brakes!
« Reply #54 on: January 19, 2003, 05:11:48 AM »
I'm only guessing.. but I think the results of the big brake kit in the AEM Integra were afftected by the ABS. Sometimes ABS can be a hindrance in stopping distances because instead of a steady pedal pressure on the brakes, the ABS cuts in and effectively pulses the pedal pressure. So the effect is a longer stopping distance. Big brake kits are not really intended to increase stopping power or shorten stopping distances. The best thing about big brake kits is the longevety, durability, and fade resistance in hard driving, or track days.
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Re:Big Brakes!
« Reply #55 on: January 20, 2003, 09:37:11 AM »
enigz, I just got that pic from another website. It seems they didn't replace some of the other brake components (forgot which ones exactly). Therefore somehow the brake balance got screwed up hence the longer braking distances. I'll try to find the page with the correct explanation. I'll post it here later...

edit: here's the link, read the whole thread for the explanation

http://www.honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=377173
« Last Edit: January 20, 2003, 01:25:31 PM by Benj »

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Re:Big Brakes!
« Reply #56 on: January 22, 2003, 07:02:53 AM »
thanks very informative

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