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alloy wheels vs steel wheels
« on: April 14, 2003, 03:25:56 PM »
which is which

alloy is lighter
but steel is stronger for

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Re:alloy wheels vs steel wheels
« Reply #1 on: April 14, 2003, 03:43:51 PM »
Apr 14, 2003 ( UTC -7 )

which is which

alloy is lighter
but steel is stronger for

Pwedeng mabasag ang alloy wheels, at masagwang tingnan kapag nagasgas. Lalo na kapag nagpa-vulcanize ka sa probinsiya.  :)  It's not necessarily weaker than steel wheels. Ang steel wheels, kapag naabuso, pwedeng pukpukin to get it back in shape, alloy hindi. Thankfully, wala pa naman akong nawawasak na alloy wheels.

Mas maporma ang alloy wheels sa masa, pero ang steel wheels gets more admiring "grunts" from hard-core guys (mga may kalyo sa pwet). Kinakalawang nga lang ang steel wheels.

And yes, light weight properties will help you, specially when you're changing tyres. Ever rotated five 35" tyres? Each weighing about 135 lbs.? Not fun. Then try to imagine changing tyres when you're on a steep slope, and it's raining cold like hell, and you keep your spare on the roof....  ;)

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Re:alloy wheels vs steel wheels
« Reply #2 on: April 14, 2003, 03:51:23 PM »
Steel wheels aren't always stronger than alloys.  Most modern Class 8 (80,000 lb GVWR) trucks run forged Alcoa alloys.  Baja race trucks also run on alloys.

Weld (www.weldracing.com) light-truck forged alloys for typical 4x4s are rated to support 3,200 lbs each and are rated for 44" tires.

Sure there are also steel wheels that are just as strong (military spec) but, in most cases, forged alloys will be stronger.  Common cast alloys are weaker but common in the aftermarket.  

Factory alloys on heavy-duty Rams and Ford Super Duty's are forged.

The advantage of steel is lower cost, easier to re-touch with paint and often bend before breaking.  

There are too many variables to make a generalization as to which is always stronger.  Check individual wheel specs.

In any case, some of the strongest alloy wheels will come from Weld Racing and Alcoa.  For steel wheels, you can't go wrong with Stockton.   However, wheels from these companies will cost you big-bucks-- $200-400 per wheel depending on size.  

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Re:alloy wheels vs steel wheels
« Reply #3 on: April 14, 2003, 04:54:53 PM »
to be more precise

american racing tailgunner

vs  

stock strada alloy wheels

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Re:alloy wheels vs steel wheels
« Reply #4 on: April 14, 2003, 06:22:00 PM »
My choice is steel for serious off-road and alloy for light offroad.

I think the AR Tailgunner will look good on your strada, but i prefer the nugget style rims.

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Re:alloy wheels vs steel wheels
« Reply #5 on: April 15, 2003, 06:51:20 AM »
to be more precise

american racing tailgunner

vs  

stock strada alloy wheels


di ba alloy ang AR?

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Re:alloy wheels vs steel wheels
« Reply #6 on: April 16, 2003, 12:02:02 AM »
I think AR has both alloy and steel.

What can you do pag kinalawang yung steel? I have steel ARs kasi, don't know if it's polished or chrome. Basta it's peeling some sort of plastic, and the part na nag-peel na started to rust.

I called this company that does chromes and they charge P2500 a wheel! That's almost as much as buying brand new wheels! Pangit ba kung i-paint ng silver?

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Re:alloy wheels vs steel wheels
« Reply #7 on: April 16, 2003, 12:51:13 AM »
Nic,

If it's only one or two wheels of the set that has started rusting, just have the chroming redone. But if all four are in the same shape, painting would be the cheaper and more viable alternative.

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Re:alloy wheels vs steel wheels
« Reply #8 on: April 16, 2003, 09:46:15 AM »
Stock Pajero rims (like mine) would look real good on your truck.

Advantage ng steel is that it is easier to repair on the field.  Pero since hindi naman tayo marunong mag-repair, bale wala din ang advantage na ito.  Hehehe.

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Re:alloy wheels vs steel wheels
« Reply #9 on: April 16, 2003, 02:05:43 PM »
to be more precise
american racing tailgunner
vs  
stock strada alloy wheels

I doubt if American Racing wheels will be any stronger than you stock Strada alloys.

Though still of good and reputable quality, AR alloy wheels are one of the cheapest alloy wheels available in the U.S. aftermarket and are cast-- not forged.  

Avoid their chrome steel versions which tend to rust and are difficult to re-touch by paint.  If you must get steel, stick with painted black which, I think, looks cool, practical, functional and easily re-touched by VHT when scratched or rusted.  

ARs will be strong enough for your Strada so its really up to you if you want to spend for just a change in style.

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Re:alloy wheels vs steel wheels
« Reply #10 on: April 16, 2003, 03:02:09 PM »
the thing is i have already an AR mags 15x8 wrapped with 31s yoko AT's

i want to go back to stock alloy, 15x7 then wrap it with 31 muds,  dunlops MT2 or  yoko Muds

what do you think guys

stick to old or ....

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Re:alloy wheels vs steel wheels
« Reply #11 on: April 16, 2003, 03:31:09 PM »
the thing is i have already an AR mags 15x8 wrapped with 31s yoko AT's

i want to go back to stock alloy, 15x7 then wrap it with 31 muds,  dunlops MT2 or  yoko Muds

what do you think guys

stick to old or ....

if you are getting more serious with offroading then go back to alloy.

how about separate set of steel rims with MTs for offroading?

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Re:alloy wheels vs steel wheels
« Reply #12 on: April 16, 2003, 08:09:38 PM »
I think AR has both alloy and steel.

What can you do pag kinalawang yung steel? I have steel ARs kasi, don't know if it's polished or chrome. Basta it's peeling some sort of plastic, and the part na nag-peel na started to rust.

I called this company that does chromes and they charge P2500 a wheel! That's almost as much as buying brand new wheels! Pangit ba kung i-paint ng silver?

You can sand your wheels down and just paint them black, silver or whatever color.  Re-chroming is more expensive and the humid weather in the Philippines will make them rust again.  If you paint, you can easily re-paint everytime your wheels rust again.

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Re:alloy wheels vs steel wheels
« Reply #13 on: April 16, 2003, 08:50:12 PM »
Hehe, thanks Johnpublic!

Rookie,
Unfortunately, the 4 wheels are strating to rust. I guess I'll have to repaint them all.

The rims are the AR767. It originally comes in black or chrome only, but the Vitara (where it's installed) is white and silver. I think silver ang bagay, but I havent seen a silver 767. Sana bagay :)

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