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« Reply #15 on: January 21, 2003, 10:18:09 AM »
Tried accessing the listed .au site (Australian?), got an error in return. Must be down or no longer there.

Sixpack,

So long as it was coconut they were using, must be the same thing.

Laking tulong ito sa Pinas if their claims are true and made widely available.

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« Reply #16 on: January 21, 2003, 10:25:46 AM »
Tried accessing the listed .au site (Australian?), got an error in return. Must be down or no longer there.


Try the U.S. site: www.biodiesel.org .  Has a lot of info including gov't requirements on what constitutes biodiesel.

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« Reply #17 on: January 21, 2003, 11:06:29 AM »
722rt,

It's great to know people here are thinking about biodiesel. For local developments, contact the Philippine Coconut Authority, as I believe that they are establishing a gov't-wide fleet conversion to biodiesel. Last time I spoke with them, target implementation was 1st quarter this year.

In the US, the American Soybean Association was a prime mover in promoting the use of soybean-based  biodiesel using soybeans. If their success could be copied here using coconuts, bilib na ako sa Pinoy!!!

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« Reply #18 on: January 21, 2003, 12:05:32 PM »
The one that i watch, i think National Geographic ( i hope Im not mistaken).  The process is simple, and its pure coconut oil they use as substitute for diesel.  There were no high-tech process.  Sayang di ko na record.

It could be done by our cottage industries.

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« Reply #19 on: January 21, 2003, 12:23:18 PM »
The articles on this website date back to late '01, but are interesting nevertheless: http://www.platts.com/altfuel/related.shtml

Wonder whatever came out of the Thai-Toyota research on biodiesel...base vs. palm vs. coconut? (described in the link above)

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« Reply #20 on: January 21, 2003, 01:37:34 PM »

 tmc306,

  The last time I have a communication with DZL FLOW dealer of locally made biodiesel from coconut. I am trying to contact him but no reply that is why I made this thread again....thanks to JohnQ for retrieving the previous pages.

  I did not bought at that time coz the packaging is 20 liters, what he recommend is to mix at least 5 % of biodiesel and 95 % local diesel fuel. I believe they are working to have it in 5 liters package...more manageable, a liter cost around P50.00.

  I personally believe in the product, that is why I want to personally test it. Problem is I don't where to get them.

  By the way I used 722rt coz I forgot my password after a long lull...busy lang.... the real is rvt722 same person.
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« Reply #21 on: January 21, 2003, 08:05:19 PM »
I already have tested it, but it seems to me that it does'nt work. I poured 2 liters when I loaded a full tank of diesel. Unfortunately during that day I was flagged down by a smoke belching team, even though mine was not really emitting smoke. I challenge them to test it since I've loaded it already. The damn guys floored down the accelerator and of course the black smoke did come out. So of course i failed according to their computer. Got a grade of 3k. :-[

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« Reply #22 on: January 21, 2003, 08:35:11 PM »
Yep your right, tested it too and it failed. I just bought an imported additive and cleaned my pipes and my isuzu pick-up passed the test. IMHO I think those imported additives are much better.

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« Reply #23 on: January 22, 2003, 02:38:56 AM »
RVT,

Looks like this is a dead-end option.

Will ask from PCA as TMC306 suggests instead. Maybe we can get some good leads there.

Will post developments if any.

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« Reply #24 on: January 22, 2003, 03:18:38 AM »
At P50 per liter, biodiesel isn't worth it!  Spend your money on additives and injector cleaners that are really designed to do the job.  Sure biodiesel may run cleaner and I don't doubt it but if you think a mere 2 liters in your tank will solve all your smoke belching problems-- no way!  That's merely placebo...

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« Reply #25 on: January 22, 2003, 11:31:36 AM »
JohnQ,

RVT told me this is an additive of sorts. And it's being offered  now to him at Php 70 instead of the former Php 50 per liter.

Thought this could be a good product, but reviews from two of our guests say otherwise.

Loaded up diesel at Flying V today. They had regular diesel and RL diesel. Gasoline boys say RL diesel is a mixture of a local component plus regular diesel. Would anyone have more information on this? Maybe this is the real "biodiesel" everyone is interested in.



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« Reply #26 on: January 22, 2003, 11:49:48 AM »
Sure it is mixed with regular diesel here in the U.S. but it isn't used to pass emissions.  It's more environmentally friendly but it won't mask engine problems.

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Re:BIODIESEL
« Reply #27 on: January 23, 2003, 12:56:53 PM »

  JohnQ,

  For the benefit of those who use diesel fuel, what is the best available diesel additive in the market and fuel system cleaner.  We have several brands available here that is why I want to know the one that really deliver their claims.

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  Diesel Flow, you need to explain your side, two above has attested that their experience with your biodiesel was not that encouraging. Further share the benefit of using dzl flow based on controlled testing evaluation results.

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Re:BIODIESEL
« Reply #28 on: January 23, 2003, 01:02:05 PM »
To add to RVT's request, if this product has passed DOST screening and approval.

Is it the Department of Science and Technology that certifies local inventions like this?

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« Reply #29 on: January 23, 2003, 01:39:18 PM »

  JohnQ,

  For the benefit of those who use diesel fuel, what is the best available diesel additive in the market and fuel system cleaner.  We have several brands available here that is why I want to know the one that really deliver their claims.

There's no such thing as a miracle cure.  If too many far-fetched claims are made by a certain product then it probably ain't true.  Just stick to reputable diesel fuel additives like BP, STP, and the like.  See what works best on your vehicle.  Here in the U.S., some heavy truck fleet operators even use ATF.  However, I don't know how it will work on your light truck diesels but I don't think half a liter in your tank will hurt.  

Also, another cause of heavy particulates/soot is simply low grade fuel.  Engine design also matters.  Direct-injection typically emits less soot than a pre-chamber or turbelance chamber design.

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