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Re: Idemitsu Motor Oil
« Reply #30 on: December 06, 2011, 10:22:22 AM »
With that Sir Vivo, you deserve a clap from Britney.  :wav: :cheer: :banana:



I wonder if Mr. Moly here is related to MOLLY? lol

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Re: Idemitsu Motor Oil
« Reply #31 on: December 07, 2011, 12:48:04 AM »
You edit your post in the background and say people are not reading? Good job!

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Re: Idemitsu Motor Oil
« Reply #32 on: December 07, 2011, 09:30:38 AM »
I'll take Molly with Britney anytime! :banana:

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Re: Idemitsu Motor Oil
« Reply #33 on: December 07, 2011, 11:39:13 AM »
I think its legit naman since sa Uniol Gas station ko binili and yung Unioil daw yung Distributor ng Idemitsu product dito sa Phils according sa branch manager nung Unioil.

Highly refined Mineral oil base stocks siya na under ng Group 3 oils if i'm not mistaken which is allowed to be marketed as Synthetic oil.

No question about your oil being real or not. It is authentic since you bought it from Unioil, if I'm not mistaken they distribute Idemitsu.

As to the datasheet by Idemitsu, they are misleading people by putting 100% Fully Synthetic in the datasheet. There is only either Fully Synthetic of 100% Synthetic.

Fully Synthetic is used normally for Group III hydrocracked synthetic oils.
100% Synthetic is for Group IV and up.

It doesn't mean its a bad product either and at the price they're selling you, they passed API standards; the labeling is just misleading.

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Re: Idemitsu Motor Oil
« Reply #34 on: December 07, 2011, 11:50:09 AM »
It's not only this company that's doing this, when Castrol changed the formula of its Syntec "full synthetic motor oil", eliminating the polyalphaolefin (PAO) base stock and replacing it with a "hydroisomerized" petroleum base stock, they still retained the “FULL SYNTHETIC MOTOR OIL” on the label.  :violent1:

But what I know is that it is only in North America that Group 3 is allowed to be marketed as "Synthetic" and is not allowed in other countries.  :dontknow:


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Re: Idemitsu Motor Oil
« Reply #35 on: December 07, 2011, 01:08:06 PM »
I think there's no laws in Asia for this. That would be the reason why it is allowed. Most especially here in the Philippines where policy makers do not really know what they're doing.

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Re: Idemitsu Motor Oil
« Reply #36 on: December 07, 2011, 01:24:16 PM »
Guess you're right. So it's "caveat emptor" again?  You cannot anymore rely on popular brands because even they mislead the consumers. At least herbal meds or supplements claiming to aid in some form of illnesses have the "no approved therapeutic claims" marking on the label. ;D

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Re: Idemitsu Motor Oil
« Reply #37 on: December 07, 2011, 04:17:13 PM »
Yung Royal purple line fully synthetic talaga? So kung group 3 oil siya parang semi synthetic oil lang siya?
« Last Edit: December 07, 2011, 04:31:11 PM by jmpet626 »

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Re: Idemitsu Motor Oil
« Reply #38 on: December 07, 2011, 04:31:39 PM »
Yung Royal purple line fully synthetic talaga?

Nobody really knows. Oil companies keep their formulas "secret" due to "proprietary reasons". Not even the employees of these oil companies know. As long as they meet the oil standards, ok na yun. The rest is marketing.

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Re: Idemitsu Motor Oil
« Reply #39 on: December 07, 2011, 06:33:02 PM »
The only way to find out how an oil performs whether it be mineral, true or fake synthetic is thru oil analysis. Bitog has lots of uoa of popular oil brands.
http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/
as long as it meets the api specs and is within your budget and change it regularly then the idemitsu oil will be fine.
« Last Edit: December 07, 2011, 06:35:16 PM by bitmd »

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Re: Idemitsu Motor Oil
« Reply #40 on: December 07, 2011, 07:44:01 PM »
I don't trust API certifications. Licensing can be bribed!!! Redline isn't API certified and neither do Scamsoil! Though tests shows that Redline has higher ZDDP, zinc and other good additives to meet API specs.

Oil Analysis is the way to go. If you see an API seal doesn't mean it's a good oil for your car.

OT:

Been hearing rumors that HKS oil have been causing knocks in high end vehicles. They say it's multi-estered or estered BS for all I know. It's not API certified and doesn't have any oil analysis to showcase. All pure marketing BullCrap! And they say it's a good oil? They kiss my John Dingle anytime!




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Re: Idemitsu Motor Oil
« Reply #41 on: December 07, 2011, 08:41:41 PM »
Thumbs down to HKS oil super response and motul h-tech 100. "IMO" its not really syn (group IV / V).

Yes, oil analysis would be the best thing to do.

I heard there's one here in the Philippines but not cheap.

*While I was in the US, basic analysis (w/o TBN**) would cost 25 usd. (thats what I remember) plus 10 usd for TBN reading.

**total base number -- referring to the additives left in the oil



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Re: Idemitsu Motor Oil
« Reply #42 on: December 07, 2011, 09:17:06 PM »
Big 3 I think offers this lube oil analysis. I'm not sure of the price but it should be relatively affordable if really want to know what oil best suits your car.

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Re: Idemitsu Motor Oil
« Reply #43 on: December 07, 2011, 10:53:22 PM »
Thumbs down to HKS oil super response and motul h-tech 100. "IMO" its not really syn (group IV / V).

Yes, oil analysis would be the best thing to do.

I heard there's one here in the Philippines but not cheap.

*While I was in the US, basic analysis (w/o TBN**) would cost 25 usd. (thats what I remember) plus 10 usd for TBN reading.

**total base number -- referring to the additives left in the oil

What is your proof that Motul H-Tech 100 is not group 4 or 5 synthetic? Motul has been in the lubricant industry for 150 years, they are not a fly by night company to make false claims. And "IMO" is not proof!
« Last Edit: December 07, 2011, 11:07:49 PM by Conan® »

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Re: Idemitsu Motor Oil
« Reply #44 on: December 08, 2011, 09:06:42 PM »
Yes Conan thats why I stated 'IMO'. I only doubt the H-tech line. Motul 300v on the other hand is true synthetic.


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