I bet you guys didn't know about this:
http://www.toyota-f1.com/public/en/motorsports/senna/index1.html

Quote from: DTNS on March 29, 2005, 09:43:20 AM
I bet you guys didn't know about this:
http://www.toyota-f1.com/public/en/motorsports/senna/index1.html

wow interesting trivia indeed!  

here are other interesting tidbits on the Macau F3 scene..  notice any current F1 drivers?  two of them  were teammates back then?        

Previous Winners:

1983: Ayrton Senna (BR), Ralt Toyota RT3

1984: John Nielsen (DK), Ralt VW RT3

1985: Mauricio Gugelmim (BR), Ralt VW RT30

1986: Andy Wallace (GB), Reynard VW 863

1987: Martin Donnelly (GB), Ralt Toyota RT31

1988: Enrico Bertaggia (I), Dallara Alfa Romeo F388

1989: David Brabham (AUS), Ralt VW RT33

1990: Michael Schumacher (D), Reynard VW 903

1991: David Coulthard (GB), Ralt Mugen Honda RT35

1992: Rickard rydell (S), TOM´s Toyota 032F

1993: Joerg Mueller (D), Dallara Fiat F393

1994: Sascha Maassen (D), Dallara Opel F394

1995: Ralf Schumacher (D), Dallara Mugen Honda F395

1996: Ralph Firman (GB), Dallara Mugen Honda F396

1997: Soheil Ayari (F), Dallara Opel F396

1998: Peter Dumbreck (GB), Dallara Toyota F398

1999: Darren Manning (GB), Dallara Toyota F399

2000: Andre Couto (P), Dallara Opel F399

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2000 Entry List:

No./Driver/Nation/Car-Engine

1 Robert Lechner (A), Dallara Toyota F300

2 Haruki Kurosawa (JPN), Dallara Toyota F300

3 Ryo Fukuda (JPN), Dallara Renault F399

5 Mathieu Zangarelli (F), Dallara Renault F399

6 Jonathan Cochet (F), Dallara Renault F399

7 Lei Kit Meng (MAC), Dallara Mugen Honda

8 Andy Priaulx (GB), Dallara Mugen Honda F300

9 Patrick Friesacher (A), Dallara Opel F399

10 Andrè Couto (PORT), Dallara Opel F399

11 Alex Yoong (MAL), Dallara Opel F399

12 Tomas Scheckter (ZA), Dallara Opel F399

15 Yuji Ide (JPN), Dallara Mugen Honda F399

16 Seiji Ara (JPN), Dallara Mugen Honda F300

17 Pierre Kaffer (GER), Dallara Opel F300

18 Jo Merszei (MAC), Dallara Opel F300

19 Sebastian Philippe (FRA), Dallara Renault F399

20 Tiago Monteiro (PORT), Dallara Renault F399

21 Narain Karthikeyan (IND), Dallara Mugen Honda F300

22 Takuma Sato (JPN), Dallara Mugen Honda F300

23 Paolo Montin (I), Dallara Opel F399

25 Gianmaria Bruni (I), Dallara Mugen Honda F300

26 Lee Ying Kin (CHN), Dallara Mugen Honda F300

27 Enrico Toccacelo (I), Dallara Opel F300

28 Peter Sundberg (S), Dallara Opel F300

29 Ben Collins (GB), Dallara Opel F300

30 Milos Pavlovic (YUG), Dallara Opel F300

31 Zsold Baumgartner (H), Dallara Opel F399

32 Toshihiro Kaneishi (JPN), Dallara Opel F300

36 Michael Ho (MAC), Dallara Opel F399

38 Shinichi Takagi (JPN), Dallara Toyota F399





Grid Positions:

1 Narain Karthikeyan (IND) 2:12.887

2 Takuma Sato (J) 2:13.146

3 Ryo Fukuda (J) 2:13.262

4 Pierre Kaffer (D)

5 Mathieu Zangarelli (F)

6 Andre Couto (P)

7 Patrick Friesacher (A)

8 Enrico Toccacelo (I)

9 Paolo Montin (I)

10 Gianmaria Bruni (I)

...



Race Results:

Race 1 (15 Laps)

1 Pierre Kaffer (D), Dallara Opel 36m46.328s = 149.780 km/h

2 Andre Couto (P), Dallara Opel 36m49.728s

3 Mathieu Zangarelli (F), Dallara Renault 36m50.715s

4 Paulo Montin (I), Dallara Opel

5 Ryo Fukuda (J), Dallara Renault

6 Patrick Friesacher (A), Dallara Opel

7 Tomas Scheckter (ZA), Dallara Opel

8 Enrico Toccacelo (I), Dallara Opel

9 Andy Priaulx (GB), Dallara Mugen Honda

10 Tiago Monteiro (P), Dallara Renault

...

Fastest Lap: Narain Karthikeyan (IND), Dallara Mugen Honda 2:14.718 = 163.540 km/h (Lap 5)



Race 2 (15 Laps, = Final Classification 47th Grand Prix of Macau)

1 Andre Couto (P), Dallara Opel 39m48.758s = 138.340 km/h

2 Paulo Montin (I), Dallara Opel 39m49.868s

3 Ryo Fukuda (J), Dallara Renault 39m52.762s

4 Pierre Kaffer (D), Dallara Opel

5 Enrico Toccacelo (I), Dallara Opel

6 Tomas Scheckter (ZA), Dallara Opel

7 Ben Collins (GB), Dallara Opel

8 Andy Priaulx (GB), Dallara Mugen Honda

9 Tiago Monteiro (P), Dallara Renault

10 Patrick Friesacher (A), Dallara Opel

...

Fastest Lap: Narain Karthikeyan (IND), Dallara Mugen Honda 2:13.253 = 165.340 km/H

Galing ni Agent J talaga!!!  Can anybody guess what toyota engine they used. My guess is, being circa 80's and the 2 litre displacement engine requirement of F3's, I would think its an 18R-G. What do you guys think?




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Quote from: M.com on March 29, 2005, 05:18:54 PM
Galing ni Agent J talaga!!!  Can anybody guess what toyota engine they used. My guess is, being circa 80's and the 2 litre displacement engine requirement of F3's, I would think its an 18R-G. What do you guys think?




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Possible, and AFAIK the 18R-G racing version was in multi-valve guise also (16 valve).

i just searched for the engine they used.. and would you believe?  they used a 2T-G engine mostly developed by TODA..    meron pbang surplus nyan?  



then they started using the 3S-G 1985 onwards..

Quote from: Agent J on March 30, 2005, 10:16:17 AM
i just searched for the engine they used.. and would you believe?  they used a 2T-G engine mostly developed by TODA..    meron pbang surplus nyan?  



then they started using the 3S-G 1985 onwards..

Downgrade ka na niyan hehehe. Puwede rin mag-TODA Spec yan as there are parts for it naman

hehe downgrade nga pero mukhang mas malakas!  old skool pa!  mas scary siguro tunog nun!  

tsaka laki problma ko ngayon.. sira computer box!  

Quote from: Agent J on March 30, 2005, 11:31:18 AM
hehe downgrade nga pero mukhang mas malakas!  old skool pa!  mas scary siguro tunog nun!  

tsaka laki problma ko ngayon.. sira computer box!  

Big problem nga. Twinside time na yan

i just learned di pala sira comp box.. whew..  bka daw ignition coil..

sorry OT na...    zip...  

Mali hula ko. The 2T-G can be bored & stroked to 2 litre and it could rev better than the 18R-G.  Yup they use the 3S-G currently (at least with toyota powered F3's here).




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