rain pretty messed up the qualifying round. kawawa yun top 4 finishers sa last race. man, if the constructors championship will be decided by an outcome by the weather, something is really wrong with the FIA rules.

it's a very messed up starting grid for tom's Japanese GP. Toyota and Honda were the biggest gainers from it though.  


this will surely make for an extremely interesting 2005 Japanese GP.  

I have a much better appreciation of the challenge of Suzuka especially those S curves in the first sector thanks to Gran Turismo 4.  Amazing how exact the GT-4 reproduction is really.  

Quote from: -Andrew- on October 08, 2005, 10:38:24 PM
rain pretty messed up the qualifying round. kawawa yun top 4 finishers sa last race. man, if the constructors championship will be decided by an outcome by the weather, something is really wrong with the FIA rules.

I was asking my pro racer friend about that...apparently, weather factors do not affect pro racing.  Track conditions are just track conditions.  Unless there is a serious accident that will make racing dangerous because of debris or oil in the track during a race, the race goes on, no matter what track conditions are.  I was watching this 24hour race at Nurburgring and it hailed as well as rained.  Rain doesn't delay the races at BRC.  Nothing wrong with the FIA rules.  I think the rain makes it more interesting racing.  A wet track really brings out a good set-up and a good driver  

Quote from: -Andrew- on October 08, 2005, 10:38:24 PM
man, if the constructors championship will be decided by an outcome by the weather, something is really wrong with the FIA rules.

Nothing FIA can do about the weather.  You can't fault the rules for that.  In fact wet weather makes racing more interesting since it jumbles up the grid and forces fast drivers to fight their way to the top, which is what will happen today.  It'd be interesting to see those Mclarens move up.

But I hope it remains wet so we will once again see "der regenmeister" (MS) in action.

Watta race!  Awesome drive by Kimi.  I want this guy in red by 2007!!

no what i'm trying to point out sa qualifying is that the qualifying results in suzuka isn't a reflection of the car's capability kasi when they ran, iba yun weather conditions. of course wala akong masabi if for example umulan sa gitna ng race and all of them are in the same situation or umulan sa start ng qualifying. but having some cars have their qualifying round on dry pavement and others on wet isn't kinda fair IMO.

kimi won with some sensational driving and some luck as well. maybe montoya wouldn't have to be DNF if he had a higher qualifying spot, but then again that never happened so its open to speculation. maybe bad, maybe good.

it was an action-packed race with some sensational driving from alonso and Raikkonen!  

Quote from: stradale on October 09, 2005, 03:41:09 PM
Watta race!  Awesome drive by Kimi.  I want this guy in red by 2007!!

I'd like to see alonso rather than Kimi in the red car.    (hmmm... it'd be a similar career path to the one Schumi Sr. took. )


anyway, check out this newsflashes about the penalties on Villeneuve and Sato following the 2005 Japanese GP:

http://www.formula1.com/race/news/3705/749.html

hehehe!  

Quote from: Accord GTR on October 09, 2005, 08:27:30 AM
I was asking my pro racer friend about that...apparently, weather factors do not affect pro racing.  Track conditions are just track conditions.  Unless there is a serious accident that will make racing dangerous because of debris or oil in the track during a race, the race goes on, no matter what track conditions are.  I was watching this 24hour race at Nurburgring and it hailed as well as rained.  Rain doesn't delay the races at BRC.  Nothing wrong with the FIA rules.  I think the rain makes it more interesting racing.  A wet track really brings out a good set-up and a good driver  

Here is an example of a delayed race in BRC.

http://www.autoindustriya.com/motorsports/brc/brc200203.shtml

Quote from: Brent on October 11, 2005, 01:37:46 AM
Here is an example of a delayed race in BRC.

http://www.autoindustriya.com/motorsports/brc/brc200203.shtml

Hmm, I guess flooding would be similar to having dangerous debris in the track  

<<Due to better rain tires, and superb wet weather driving, he was able to muster up a big margin early on in the race. Silverio was left with no choice but to watch Coseteng's rear end as the race went on, with his car running on intermediate dry tires.>>

Brent, they were allowed intermediate tires AND rain tires then?  There wasn't any one "control tire"?  (I saw a couple of those races but wasn't aware of the rules yet then.  Nowadays, it's only Yokohama Advan Neovas allowed in the PNTCC)  Reading your report, it seems that each racer had a choice of what tire to use?

for me change in climatic conditions, specially when it rains, is a plus to f1. this is where true drver skills and car performance come out. I don't see it unfair that toward the last part of the qualifying the track was sgnificantly dry.

If the FIA rules are unfair, maybe you should react more to the USA grand prix. That in a way is a mess.

Kimi was flying! Fisi said he was really fast on the straghts.