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WAR na!!!!!!!

Started by -Andrew-, March 18, 2003, 12:22:16 AM

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-Andrew-

damn man, bush is a war freak!!! walang alam kungdi sumugod at sumugod, not thinking clearly. in an event of a war, no one wins, parehong talo. lives are lost, innocent people are affected, property are destroyed, dagdag pa sa cost ng tax payers, oil prices will go up, causing a global recession (di pa nga tayo nakaka-recover sa 97 asian financial crisis eh!) and will cause stagflation in some countries (high inflation with economic stagnation)

i understand their point that disarmament should be met and i agree with them. pero war is not the way. they can do it in another way like cutting the trade barriers and forcing husein to disarm sooner or later.

the way i see it, the US is after the oil. nelson mandela said it last month that bush is just after the oil and it seems true. bakit north korea may hindi naman sumunod sa nuclear arms pact pero tahimik si bush, puro diplomacy.

the reason is simple. number one, korea has nukes. i perceive this as an act of cowardice. alam nila kayang kaya nila ang iraq kaya war na kaagad. ang korea porket may nukes eh medyo nababading bading pa. two, walang oil sa korea. anong mapapala ng US kapag inattack nila ang korea? wala...

pero ang iraq madami sila makukuha kaya nga pro-war si bush. it's because the rewards that they will get for winning the war will be greater than their cost (lives lost, money spent) sa war. it's as simple as that.

the price of oil has rocketed up to 30% in the last 24 hrs and will continue to do so. bagsak na nga economiya natin, sasabayan pa nito...t*ng*na talga yan si bush...  :cwm23:

We simply attempt to be fearful when others are greedy and to be greedy only when others are fearful.

Regi

waaaaaaaahhhhhh..... pati nga ako nadamay dyan sa gera eh... pinapatigil na ng mom ko yung pag papasetup ng car ko dahil kilangan na raw magtipid, sana nde matuloy yung gera :-[

N E I L

Quote from: Regi on March 18, 2003, 01:00:39 AM
waaaaaaaahhhhhh..... pati nga ako nadamay dyan sa gera eh... pinapatigil na ng mom ko yung pag papasetup ng car ko dahil kilangan na raw magtipid, sana nde matuloy yung gera :-[



hahahahah, balik ba sa TAMIYA ;D

hOtsSs

yup, i know what you mean. all he ever thinks about is war. but i think the reason why he's so angry at Saddam and not at Koreans comes from the fact that he is muslim and Bin Laden is muslim. Maybe he feels he has to at least eliminate Saddam in order to redeem himself. He couldn't eliminate Bin Laden eh, and that frustrates him. Feeling niya siguro the world thinks he's less of a man because he couldn't do that so he's trying to show his 'manhood' by declaring war against Saddam, which is stupid!  >:(

prices are going up, way up! and it's still just the brink of war! wala pa yung actual war. sana nga isipin niya muna what he's gonna do to the rest of the world before he thinks about himself!
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Raymond

Quote from: -Andrew- on March 18, 2003, 12:22:16 AM
damn man, bush is a war freak!!! walang alam kungdi sumugod at sumugod, not thinking clearly. in an event of a war, no one wins, parehong talo. lives are lost, innocent people are affected, property are destroyed, dagdag pa sa cost ng tax payers, oil prices will go up, causing a global recession (di pa nga tayo nakaka-recover sa 97 asian financial crisis eh!) and will cause stagflation in some countries (high inflation with economic stagnation)

i understand their point that disarmament should be met and i agree with them. pero war is not the way. they can do it in another way like cutting the trade barriers and forcing husein to disarm sooner or later.

the way i see it, the US is after the oil. nelson mandela said it last month that bush is just after the oil and it seems true. bakit north korea may hindi naman sumunod sa nuclear arms pact pero tahimik si bush, puro diplomacy.

the reason is simple. number one, korea has nukes. i perceive this as an act of cowardice. alam nila kayang kaya nila ang iraq kaya war na kaagad. ang korea porket may nukes eh medyo nababading bading pa. two, walang oil sa korea. anong mapapala ng US kapag inattack nila ang korea? wala...

pero ang iraq madami sila makukuha kaya nga pro-war si bush. it's because the rewards that they will get for winning the war will be greater than their cost (lives lost, money spent) sa war. it's as simple as that.

the price of oil has rocketed up to 30% in the last 24 hrs and will continue to do so. bagsak na nga economiya natin, sasabayan pa nito...t*ng*na talga yan si bush...  :cwm23:



It's natural for us to disagree about war. It is the greatest sin mankind has ever committed to himself.

But somehow on an economics point of view , sabi nung isang mgr. namin dito sa office, it's better na magka-guerra na para daw mag-boom ulet iyong infrastructure building (kasi nga masisira sila ng guerra). Kasi halos lahat daw buo na ngayon and there's nothing to build, according to her. So kung mag-gigiyera mag-giyera na daw.

I don't actually agree to the abovementioned idea kasi ang laki naman ng kapalit nito, which are lives. Lives lost sa walang katuturan na bagay.

F300rally_truckster

Kupal talagang yan si Saddam at iba pang mga terrorista. Napakawise nila pinipikon nila lalo ang mga kano at si bush para gerahin sila, so yung mga tao against war mas nagagalit sa mga kano instead kay Saddam. Kaya Saddam your a b***sh*t!!! You want innocent people to get killed and war against each other!!! So Saddam F***off!!

green

#6
mga how much kaya tataas nang gas pag natuloy yan?

i remember nung gulf war halos 15 or 16p + ata per liter noon, tapos regular  price niya 7 o 9p per liter ata bago mag war

-Andrew-

wala siguro akong angal kung majority ng mundo eh support sa war at napatunayan without a doubt na may weapons of mass destruction si saddam at ties with bin laden. kaso wala eh. inconclusive yun mga evidence ni powell at gegerahin na nila kaagad?

alam naman ng US na majority would oppose them and i think it's the right view. sino ba siya porket may nukes lang siya at powerhouse ang america na ididisregard na nya ang opinion ng mga tao worldwide? what makes him so right and the majority of the human race so wrong? diba?

actually if u ask me, mas bigger threat ang north korea kasi sila may nukes and iraq wala pang nahanap na nukes. im not saying iraq is innocent but until blix can prove that they have weapons of mass destruction, dapat nde mo husgahan. parang presummed innocent until proven guilty sa court diba?

sabi ni bush magaatack daw ang iraq kapag nde nagdisarm. why that assumption? may third eye ba siya na nakakakita sa future? it's like i see a man walking down the street and sinapak ko siya kaagad. when the police will ask me why i punched the guy in the face, pwde ko bang sabihin "feeling ko uupakan nya ako eh" ?

the UN is doing its work right now and madami nang al sammound missiles ang sinira ni blix, why stop when the investigation is ongoing? this is the point france is trying to ask bush. there is no need for war to disarm. kasi ongoing na nga yun process eh, masiyadong mainip tong si bush at hindi maka-antay.

the US has allocated 9B USD for war. i don't think its worth it. it spend 9billion to kill people and to shatter homes in iraq. kung wala magawa si bush sa pera ng america, ibuhos na lang nya dito sa pinas para makaalis tayo sa recession.

dapat isali sa gera lahat ng kamag-anak ni bush para maramdaman nya yun sakit ng isang family member na nawalan ng ka-pamilya. all he thinks about is himself.



We simply attempt to be fearful when others are greedy and to be greedy only when others are fearful.

riggs

Iraq has used its weapons against two countries already - IRAN and KUWAIT. It has used its weapons of mass destruction against IRAN and the Kurds particularly its chemical weapons. Saddam worked his way up to power begging by assasinating the former president. an upcoming assasin for another political party. When he succeeded the president After wards he cleaned up his government by eliminating anyone, even close friends in the government who would hiccup on him. He launched scud missiles against israel during the kuwait war and ignited oil deposits, setting them on fire.

it had 12 years to comply on disarmament since 1991, afterwards its been an 0n-off hunt for these weapons. naka ilang resolutions na ang UN. tapos natigil, one time it refused to comply. then it only came back in 1998. the reason why iraq is complying but not fully is because there is a pressence there- 250,000 troops. do you think it would disarm if Allied troops were'nt there? UN is not even a a big factor to iraqs disarmament. he is playing a game of hide and seek with the inspectors and unlike south africa - there is no initiative from them to disarm. he is not proactive in doing it.

i would be against war if this mad man was'nt on top of his power. we all know what happend to 9-11 and i would'nt take my chances here. he has unleashed them against two countries and against his own country men in the north and southern  areas of iraq against the kurds - against earth by destroying the oil fields. what makes you think he would'nt use it against others?

and oh, he has admitted he has chemical weapons - but he said he uses it for self defense. what a escape goat huh?

i really can't fathom how people are echoing this man defense. they rally in the streets and voice out his name all exacerbated by france. this man idolizes stalin. he has a library of stalin's life. i can't imagine a world if this man remains in power knowing what he has done in the past to his neighbors and to his countrymen and to his country.

i really think we should take a better look at both sides of the story before making harsh conclusions. i have and i think this man should be put down.

BlackBlood

#9
iraq onlay has a 48 hour ultimatum before they get bombed

imho tinutuloy lang ni bush giyera ng tatay niya.

as for the motivation, di siguro oil. kasi kung magwarlalo lang mapapabilis ang paggamit ng fuel sa mga warmachines and hindi nawawala yung threat of iraq burning oil like nangyari nung 1991

alam ng US mayweapons ang iraq kasi sila ang nagbigay sakanila ng weapons. binigyan nila para tulungan sila sa lumang war tapos binaackstab sila ng iraq.



pero if you think about it...population control

akodin nga delay project ko,inaantay ko ano kalalabasan nitong fiasco nato
"can we take a ride? get out of this place while we still have time" Jimmy eat world - work

Dondie

Wala na, hindi na mapipigilan yan... within 48 hours sure war na between Iraq and Us/british/Aussie troops.. :)


Ive one thing to say... TAYO NUMERO UNO SUPORTER NG U.S., TAYO RIN ANG NUMERO UNO LALABAS NA KULELAT.  >:(

I see prices of goods, dollar exchange and oil proces skyrocket. Malulunod nanaman ang pinas.. :(
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BlackBlood

#11
panick buying na! hehe kung mayplano kayo buy now

update tinanggihan ni saddam yung 48 hour thing
"can we take a ride? get out of this place while we still have time" Jimmy eat world - work

EL3MenT0_101

tatapusin na nya ang sinimulan ng tatay nya...hahahaha..... ;D
oh well...majority of us population supports the war and the rest will support the soldiers even if they don't want the war......hopefully this will end fast.....

mz_danni

call me selfish and crazy, but the world need this war.  of course, this is only my opinion.  sana isama na rin ang pilipinas.  para mamatay na lahat ang dapat mamatay (the corrupt, the squatters, the capitalist, the weak, the bad in general), at matira ang matatag at masipag.  para start all over again.  kinda like japan, germany, korea, etc.. very well developed countries after a tragic war.  

just wanna voice out, please dont hate me.

:(
Its called Individual Differences.

DEAL WITH IT!!

Benj

After watching the debate last night in the British parliament, I'm starting to think that this war is in fact needed. If the governments back out now, then it would just give Saddam one more thing to boast about. He's gonna think that the world govts are afraid to use force.

An article I found interesting

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,3284-614607,00.html

I just hope that it ends quickly...
In a world of compromise, some don't.