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Auburn LSD

Started by sixpack, August 14, 2003, 11:23:25 PM

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sixpack

Anyone have experience with this type of LSD?  Why do i need friction modifier?  Will it break if i dont use one?

Thanks for the reply.

Wolverine

I presume you are pertaining to the the use of friction modifiers to help the clutch packs engage better?

My experience with LSD (was a really colorful trip with purple butterflies!! Oops maling LSD pala yun. hehehe)

Actually, what I experienced with LSD's before is if you do not use gear oil which is designed for LSD's, the unit does not engage as effectively (allowing more slippage than normal)  However, once the oil has been changed, the unit functions normally again.  This was on a cusco unit but these LSD's work on the same principle.  Hope this  helps.
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Freeman

Quote from: Wolverine on August 15, 2003, 10:34:27 AM
My experience with LSD was a really colorful trip with purple butterflies!!

My experience with LSD was a rainbow waterfall on a magenta pond with pastel colored fishes.

Little Nicky

First of all, an AUBORN LSD is a different type of LSD compared to those you find in you surplus shops, it is a spring loaded LSD, you don't need to use LSD oils for it, regular gear oil will do. Unfortunately. they are not as tough as I thought they would be. Broke 3 of em last year on my DYNAMITE. >:( >:( >:(

bandit

Quote from: Little Nicky on August 15, 2003, 02:15:24 PM
First of all, an AUBORN LSD is a different type of LSD compared to those you find in you surplus shops, it is a spring loaded LSD, you don't need to use LSD oils for it, regular gear oil will do. Unfortunately. they are not as tough as I thought they would be. Broke 3 of em last year on my DYNAMITE. >:( >:( >:(

LN

yung ba ang nabili ko sa iyo last year?  kaya pala hindi gumagana! ;D ;D ;D

Little Nicky

Bandit,

Di yon ang binigay ko sayo noh, what you have is a DETROIT C LOCKER. Yung locker mo gumagana, Ikaw yata ang hindi. HAHAHA

sixpack

Quote from: Little Nicky on August 15, 2003, 02:15:24 PM
First of all, an AUBORN LSD is a different type of LSD compared to those you find in you surplus shops, it is a spring loaded LSD, you don't need to use LSD oils for it, regular gear oil will do. Unfortunately. they are not as tough as I thought they would be. Broke 3 of em last year on my DYNAMITE. >:( >:( >:(

Where did you install them?  Front or rear?  What tire size?

johnqpublic318

The best limited-slips are the gear-type Torsens or Detroit Tru-Tracs...  They don't wear out.

Auburns, just like any limited-slip that uses springs and friction disks will wear out just like a clutch.

sixpack

I've read that detroit tru-tracs is not suitable for large tires.  

Little Nicky

Sixpack,

I've used both ways, front and rear, just the same they broke. V8 din kasi gamit ko on my 40 series LC. But just the same, I installed it on an F155 Cruiser at the rear, still broke.

johnqpublic318

Quote from: sixpack on August 15, 2003, 09:17:13 PM
I've read that detroit tru-tracs is not suitable for large tires.  

TruTracs are commonly used on the front Dana 60s of Ford Super Dutys and they are heavy duty.

The Tractech/Detroit Gearless drop-in locker is the one that's not suitable for large tires or heavy duty use.

sixpack

LN

If youre able to break them in front, that must be pretty weak since i know that birfields always have to go first.

sixpack

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Jhonq

According to

http://www.tomsdifferentials.com/cat108.jpg

Not for large tires.  Some of their pages says for mild abuse only.

I'm just looking for a substitute for ARB that is tough enough.  What else do you suggest aside from detroit lockers?

johnqpublic318

Quote from: sixpack on August 16, 2003, 02:56:55 PM
Jhonq

According to

http://www.tomsdifferentials.com/cat108.jpg

Not for large tires.  Some of their pages says for mild abuse only.

I'm just looking for a substitute for ARB that is tough enough.  What else do you suggest aside from detroit lockers?

Hmm... I read your link but it's Toyota axle specific.  Maybe the Trutrac that will fit Toyota axles isn't that durable?  Hence that warning...

I really don't know of any heavier-duty LSD.  But, for the most part, many extreme heavy duty applications (80,000 lb Class 8 rigs, military trucks and off-highway earth movers) don't use LSDs but immediately go to a full-locker such as the Tractech No-Spin or Detroit Locker.

However, the Trutrac is already used for Dana 70s/80s, Rockwell and Meritor heavy-truck axles.  These links verify that:

http://www.tractech.com/docs/HeavyModelList.pdf

http://www.tractech.com/docs/LightTruckModelList.pdf

If you really wanna be sure and still use a LSD that won't break, use the Tractech Detroit LSD or Suretrac.  However, you must swap-in Meritor or Rockwell axles to use these Tractech LSDs. ;D

Another LSD option would be the Torsen.  They were used on the older Hummers.  But, Torsens may not be available for your axle application.

My personal suggestion: Just use an ARB or Detroit Electrac for the front if you fear breaking a LSD or wearing it out.

sixpack

Detroit Electrac Thats the answer however i think it is still not available for toyota axle....