V10's in F1

[M.com]

Which team or teams are still using V10 engines in the 2006 F1 season.  Do they have an advantage over the newer V8's. Sorry didn't follow the F1 news so much.

[Arnold]

I heard the Midland or MF1 ang naka V10.
Maybe handicap na sa kanila dahil outdated na ang sakayan?

I don't know maybe or maybe not.

[DTNS]

I heard the Midland or MF1 ang naka V10.
Maybe handicap na sa kanila dahil outdated na ang sakayan?

I don't know maybe or maybe not.

Toyota V8 ang gamit ng Midland F1. Toro Rosso (Red Bull team 2) lang ang naka restricted V10 this season. (c/o Cosworth)

[Agent J]

schumy was interviewed kanina after his kiss with the wall and was asked if there v10-powered toro rosso of liuzzi was the reason why he was passed so easily.. schumy matter-of-factly said 'no, the v10s did not really have a power advantage over thev8s..' or something to that effect..  

[M.com]

In what way are those V10's limited? RPM or may intake restrictor or detuned???

[DTNS]

In what way are those V10's limited? RPM or may intake restrictor or detuned???

rev-limited. the Cosworth V10's Toro Rosso uses only revs till 16000 rpm.

[M.com]

Oh by the way, are those V10's 3.0 litre displacement? The current V8's are 2.4 litre displacement right?

[Agent J]

yup..   basically the v10s are still last year's engines.  

[stradale]

Based on Ferarri test times during the winter, the detuned V10's were still slightly faster than the V8's. When both cars were on the same track on the same day, the V10 was slightly faster almost all the time.

[M.com]

Well to date no STR cars reached the podium yet so I guess the advantage isn't significant.

[raider2005]

siguro me slight advantage ang v10 sa power pero hindi enough for them to win.other factors. sa driver sa aero dynamics pati pit crew at ung gumagawa ng strategy.hindi ko lang alam kung mas matakaw sa gasoline ang v10 kesa v8 disadvantage din un.

[Accord GTR]

rev-limited. the Cosworth V10's Toro Rosso uses only revs till 16000 rpm.

Without really checking, I would say it can't be just a rev-limiter.  It's gotta be an inlet restrictor to equalize the torque.  Remember, it's a 3.0L V10 vs. a 2.4L V8.  Eventhough you limit the revs to 16K, it'll still make more torque than the V8's without a restrictor.  Correct me if I'm wrong

[DTNS]

Without really checking, I would say it can't be just a rev-limiter.  It's gotta be an inlet restrictor to equalize the torque.  Remember, it's a 3.0L V10 vs. a 2.4L V8.  Eventhough you limit the revs to 16K, it'll still make more torque than the V8's without a restrictor.  Correct me if I'm wrong

hmmm... that's probably why the rev-limited V10 still has an advantage over the new V8's.  

[Agent J]

yes it's also restricted.  i think the 2006 regulations made the air intake much smaller than last year's to match the intake of the current V8s..

[choy]

Based on Ferarri test times during the winter, the detuned V10's were still slightly faster than the V8's. When both cars were on the same track on the same day, the V10 was slightly faster almost all the time.

nung winter testing mabagal pa talaga yung mga V8.  now they have clawed back a lot of the lost speed through aerodynamics and other improvements with the car.  i think and advantage ng V10s ngayon eh torque and ofcourse beind de-tuned, reliability.  since those engines were made to handle 18k RPMs, now they're running much less revs means less stress on the engine parts.