team tarzan subaru impreza wrx

[samurai_rex]

team tarzan.... Shattering Records At Button Willow 

http://www.importtuner.com/events/impp_0903_cusco_team_tarzan_subaru_impreza_super_lap_battle_2008/index.html

http://www.turbomagazine.com/features/turp_0901_2007_subaru_impreza_wrx_sti/index.html

[Accord GTR]

Parang the JDM's are beating the American teams in their own turf.  What happened to the OEM's like that GM FWD car that won the last  Track Attack?  Or how come they don't allow the Corvettes and Vipers or even Porsches and Ferrari's to join?

Well, I love Track Attack but these top JDM cars seem only good for a few laps before they crash or blow up!  Kinda silly if you ask me if I was gonna build a track car with little or no reliability.

[speedyfix]

Parang the JDM's are beating the American teams in their own turf.  What happened to the OEM's like that GM FWD car that won the last  Track Attack?  Or how come they don't allow the Corvettes and Vipers or even Porsches and Ferrari's to join?

Well, I love Track Attack but these top JDM cars seem only good for a few laps before they crash or blow up!  Kinda silly if you ask me if I was gonna build a track car with little or no reliability.

chris rados scion is still alive but won't be in the same league as this car despite all the aero aids.

what do you mean they have little or no reliability? why do you say that? with all the mods, things are bound to break. you're tuning at the edge. most of the builds are unlimited unlike competitions here i.e. ptcc which is basically a stock engine and chassis and all the suspension mods you want (that's oversimplifying it but you get the point). syempre mas konti dapat masira when you are limited with what you can and cannot do... that's the point in limiting things in the first place so you cut down on cost.

[Accord GTR]

chris rados scion is still alive but won't be in the same league as this car despite all the aero aids.

what do you mean they have little or no reliability? why do you say that? with all the mods, things are bound to break. you're tuning at the edge. most of the builds are unlimited unlike competitions here i.e. ptcc which is basically a stock engine and chassis and all the suspension mods you want (that's oversimplifying it but you get the point). syempre mas konti dapat masira when you are limited with what you can and cannot do... that's the point in limiting things in the first place so you cut down on cost.

Didn't you read the article?  Blown tranny for this Suby.  S2K: blown engine. 

There were other winners before that did not suffer breakdowns, like the winning GM FWD car before in this same event or the R34 GTR before that.  It is possible to build Track Attack cars that do not blow up you know.    

You can engineer in reliability into a race car.  I don't believe in blowing up engines and stuff just to win.  That's silly.  But I know it happens with a lot of racers out there.  I mean, if I blow an engine or something, I probably couldn't afford a re-build before the event.  But I'd guess for these guys, that's not the case.

[samurai_rex]

tarzan subaru wrx = 1:44.372

1:43.523 all-time track record set from the HKS CT230R EVO 8. mitsubishi!  :cheer:

[Accord GTR]

Wow, that Evo looks like there is nothing left of the original car except the engine block! 

[samurai_rex]

Wow, that Evo looks like there is nothing left of the original car except the engine block! 

btw, that car which is the fastest at that racetrack is driven by no other than NOB who has here last weekend for the drift event at greenhills

[speedyfix]

Didn't you read the article?  Blown tranny for this Suby.  S2K: blown engine. 

There were other winners before that did not suffer breakdowns, like the winning GM FWD car before in this same event or the R34 GTR before that.  It is possible to build Track Attack cars that do not blow up you know.    

You can engineer in reliability into a race car.  I don't believe in blowing up engines and stuff just to win.  That's silly.  But I know it happens with a lot of racers out there.  I mean, if I blow an engine or something, I probably couldn't afford a re-build before the event.  But I'd guess for these guys, that's not the case.

you can engineer all you want but shit happens and things blow up and parts break. just because you can't afford to rebuild the engine doesn't mean others can't. they are obviously backed by some pretty serious funding at this level of racing... just look at the parts list of any of the cars.

like they say, if you're not breaking parts, you're not trying hard enough.

[Accord GTR]

you can engineer all you want but shit happens and things blow up and parts break. just because you can't afford to rebuild the engine doesn't mean others can't. they are obviously backed by some pretty serious funding at this level of racing... just look at the parts list of any of the cars.

like they say, if you're not breaking parts, you're not trying hard enough.

I think you missed my point.  IMO, if you have the funds, then you should be able to engineer in some reliability.  That's the whole point of getting ready for the race.  Before you race, everything is taken apart, inspected and put back together.  If something breaks, then either there was already previous damage or it was worn beyond its capacity, it was assembled incorrectly, or the package wasn't tuned properly (not counting driver error).

Mainly you'll see the OEM guys more reliable with a more conservative package while some of the aftermarket will have the radical package with little or no reliability.

I think the saying is, if you're not crashing, you're not trying.  I don't believe you should be breaking parts.  If the car is put together right, it should last without breaking.

Anyway, this is my philosophy while others will believe in your philosophy too.  Peace! 

[kaskasero]

makikigulo lang...

diba dati the engine just needs to last long enough to cross the finish line? and then because of the rules in limiting the number of engines that can be used that is when they setup their engines to last longer than one race? I wasn't really following motorsports during that time so I don't really know...

what rules are these cars following? if the just want to set a record in a race track for marketing purposes, and all people will look at are the numbers then they probably wouldn't put a lot of time and effort in reliability. It's probably a conscious / calculated decision to not care about reliability. They could engineer some reliability but they decided no to.

So these cars are from aftermarket parts manufacturers right? If majority of people who would buy the parts they are selling just care about the numbers then they will probably just focus everything to get those numbers.

[Benj]

makikigulo lang...

diba dati the engine just needs to last long enough to cross the finish line? and then because of the rules in limiting the number of engines that can be used that is when they setup their engines to last longer than one race? I wasn't really following motorsports during that time so I don't really know...

what rules are these cars following? if the just want to set a record in a race track for marketing purposes, and all people will look at are the numbers then they probably wouldn't put a lot of time and effort in reliability. It's probably a conscious / calculated decision to not care about reliability. They could engineer some reliability but they decided no to.

So these cars are from aftermarket parts manufacturers right? If majority of people who would buy the parts they are selling just care about the numbers then they will probably just focus everything to get those numbers.

AFAIK in Time Attack there are no rules as to how many engines you can use. You can blow one up, swap in another one then go for another session. These cares weren't really built to race wheel to wheel for a couple of laps, they are built to break lap records.