Turbo's

[R600]

a turbo definitely voids your warranty.

i wouldn't recommend going cheap on a turbo.  it's not just about speed... reliability is more important.  what's the use of a fast car if you'll only be given reliability problems.

[z3r0cfm]

Going cheap on a turbo setup does not mean its not reliable. I have a Turbocharged Lancer and I spent a lot less than other people I know.

The only items I spent a lot on was on brand new electronics (SAFC2 Limited ED, Timer, Gauges) which could be replaced by buying 2nd hand reliable units.

If you have the money to burn, have the setup done by the Best, you get to buy your Peace of Mind, but if your on a budget, you can have a reliable and fast car still.

I also do not recommend just going for some shop who says he can do your setup cheap, be sure this shop has a  car that they are willing to show you and test drive on and make sure they know what they are doing not know what they are saying...

[RS_Sprint]

Pare,

Gagastos ka nalang din, gumastos ka na ng tama, para maayos ang makina mo.

You can buy th stuff that you need in stages: turbine (18k for a surplus but professionally rebuilt turbine), fuelling components (dito malahl talaga, it will depend on what you need), piping (erL Motorwerx, Freemuff or Ayos-Auto, about 30k for everything, manifold, intake and exhaust piping), then installation, then tuning na.

PM me if you are interested, I know someone who turbocharged hihs 2k2 Civic and got 210 wheel HP! Maybe you can meet up with the guy and ask him what his set-up consists of.

HUGE gain from something like 98 wheel HP in stock trim.

[turb]

2k2 civic with 210whp? what kind and size of turbine? what sort of engine management setup?

[speedyfix]

i think it was a t3 ball bearing turbine. not sure lang about the compressor specs.

about the engine management, wala pa sya ginagawa aside from an extra injector (1000cc !!!!!!! ) and a greddy rebic controller. di kasi ma-figure out yung wiring for the emanage para makabit sa 2k1. expect even more hp tho when they fix this

[turb]

migs,

what color is that civic? white ba with bronze ce28 wheels?

[lantraluvr]

i think it was a t3 ball bearing turbine. not sure lang about the compressor specs.

about the engine management, wala pa sya ginagawa aside from an extra injector (1000cc !!!!!!! ) and a greddy rebic controller. di kasi ma-figure out yung wiring for the emanage para makabit sa 2k1. expect even more hp tho when they fix this

Adding only one injector for fueling is not a very good way to increase fuel to your engine. A couple of problems could arise from this setup. One is thr intake manifold. The manifold is not designed to handle a fuel/air mixture, so problems like inefficient air velocity and stagnant fuel in some areas of the manifold can take place. Also uneven distribution of fuel to the individual cylinders can happen. One cylinder can be lean, and BOOM. Atomization of the fuel is a prob, too.

[NSR]

i think it was a t3 ball bearing turbine. not sure lang about the compressor specs.

about the engine management, wala pa sya ginagawa aside from an extra injector (1000cc !!!!!!! ) and a greddy rebic controller. di kasi ma-figure out yung wiring for the emanage para makabit sa 2k1. expect even more hp tho when they fix this

Adding only one injector for fueling is not a very good way to increase fuel to your engine. A couple of problems could arise from this setup. One is thr intake manifold. The manifold is not designed to handle a fuel/air mixture, so problems like inefficient air velocity and stagnant fuel in some areas of the manifold can take place. Also uneven distribution of fuel to the individual cylinders can happen. One cylinder can be lean, and BOOM. Atomization of the fuel is a prob, too.

not a very good way but it works...just my 2c

[lantraluvr]

Yes it does. But why not upgade the stock injectors to bigger ones instead of just one big injector. I believe on doing it right the first time.

[fatbastard]

Yes it does. But why not upgade the stock injectors to bigger ones instead of just one big injector. I believe on doing it right the first time.

how'd you know putting in one bigger injector is not right?

besides, your whole theory about stagnant fuel in the manifold will almost always never happen. the injector activates only upon sensing boost, so at vacuum, only the 4 stock injectors are working. this setup does not cause the "inefficient air velocity" theory of yours...

and if it doesn't work that well, you think reputable companies like GReddy, Haltech, ERL, LINK, and Perfect Power will continue producing them???

[NSR]

Yes it does. But why not upgade the stock injectors to bigger ones instead of just one big injector. I believe on doing it right the first time.

how'd you know putting in one bigger injector is not right?

besides, your whole theory about stagnant fuel in the manifold will almost always never happen. the injector activates only upon sensing boost, so at vacuum, only the 4 stock injectors are working. this setup does not cause the "inefficient air velocity" theory of yours...

and if it doesn't work that well, you think reputable companies like GReddy, Haltech, ERL, LINK, and Perfect Power will continue producing them???

...exactly, and another thing is that adding one injector is much cheaper than adding 4...Practical huh

I understand your theory of just upgrading your injectors to higher CC capacity but that process is really expensive (talking from experience here) imho if you have the dough go for it but overall pwede na isa lang  

[fatbastard]

NSR3,

cheaper to add just one injector? hhmmm...  

probably in [H], but not in mitsus... hehe (correct me if im wrong, experience ko rin)  

[lantraluvr]

Yes it does. But why not upgade the stock injectors to bigger ones instead of just one big injector. I believe on doing it right the first time.

how'd you know putting in one bigger injector is not right?

besides, your whole theory about stagnant fuel in the manifold will almost always never happen. the injector activates only upon sensing boost, so at vacuum, only the 4 stock injectors are working. this setup does not cause the "inefficient air velocity" theory of yours...

and if it doesn't work that well, you think reputable companies like GReddy, Haltech, ERL, LINK, and Perfect Power will continue producing them???

Well, I really did not mean that the extra injector setup is wrong. I meant that upgrading the stock injectors is better than this. This setup is not for a high-power turbo setup.

The air velocity and stagnant fuel theorems may be incorrect, but you will still have the uneven fuel distribution between cylinders, and THAT's bad. Proper placement of the injector is critical.

Peace.

[fatbastard]

Yes it does. But why not upgade the stock injectors to bigger ones instead of just one big injector. I believe on doing it right the first time.

how'd you know putting in one bigger injector is not right?

besides, your whole theory about stagnant fuel in the manifold will almost always never happen. the injector activates only upon sensing boost, so at vacuum, only the 4 stock injectors are working. this setup does not cause the "inefficient air velocity" theory of yours...

and if it doesn't work that well, you think reputable companies like GReddy, Haltech, ERL, LINK, and Perfect Power will continue producing them???

Well, I really did not mean that the extra injector setup is wrong. I meant that upgrading the stock injectors is better than this. This setup is not for a high-power turbo setup.

The air velocity and stagnant fuel theorems may be incorrect, but you will still have the uneven fuel distribution between cylinders, and THAT's bad. Proper placement of the injector is critical.

Peace.

an extra injector is not for a high-power turbo setup? the ES civic mentioned somewhere in this thread produces more than 200 wheel HP! now isn't that high power for a 1600cc SOHC??  

[lantraluvr]

It's high, but IMO, high-horsepower turbo setup is in the lines of 300-up.